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NJzzFinest ?? Junior Member
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09-11-2012

Tear is no longer really good on Nidalee considering you can't just spam pounce for stacks now.

 
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Xypherous Xypherous's Avatar ?? Associate Technical Designer
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09-11-2012

Just going to leave this here... and let you wonder where it might go...

Unique Toggle: Your basic attacks and single target spells drain an additional X% of your current mana and deal twice that amount in bonus magic damage over 2 seconds.

Edit: Also, don't worry about Nidalee. Just an oversight on the preview. Tears will still proc off everything it has ever proc'ed before (including Pounce) but in addition, it will now proc off things channeled/toggled effects that drain Mana.

 
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Midnight Rainbow ?? Senior Member
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09-11-2012

What about a manamune equivalent ? Urgot wants to say Hi

Edit * Ah right, Well, I was typing this before your message was here, Sooo. Yeah

 
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Xypherous Xypherous's Avatar ?? Associate Technical Designer
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What about a manamune equivalent ?
*cough* read above. Think where that might logically make sense.

 
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MrZakalwe ?? Senior Member
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09-11-2012

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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Just going to leave this here... and let you wonder where it might go...

Unique Toggle: Your basic attacks and single target spells cost X% of your current mana and deal twice that amount in bonus magic damage over 2 seconds.

Edit: Also, don't worry about Nidalee. Just an oversight on the preview. Tears will still proc off everything it has ever proc'ed before (including Pounce) but in addition, it will now proc off things channeled/toggled effects that drain Mana.
Hmm would this make Manamune a good item on Sivir after these changes? not sure. Have been looking for a lane mana solution on her for a while to overcome the extra sustain people tend to build laning against you.

Manamune would do it but would gimp me mid game. this maybe the answer.

 
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Xypherous Xypherous's Avatar ?? Associate Technical Designer
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Hmm would this make Manamune a good item on Sivir after these changes? not sure.
Eh. Probably not on Sivir still. Sivir doesn't go through Mana *that* quickly to require Manamune. Corki/Ezreal/Urgot should be far less mana constrained if they do go down this route, however - which will let them lean on their spells a bit more in late game siege/harass type situations. Miss Fortune / Sivir / Ashe sit at this weird middle ground between 'I would love to cast my spells more' versus 'I should really focus on making my autoattacks hurt you.' Whereas Corki/Ezreal/Urgot are all about 'Well, my autoattack is never really going to hurt *all that much* comparatively - but I have all these spells that add DPS.'

 
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Eh. Probably not on Sivir still. Sivir doesn't go through Mana *that* quickly to require Manamune. Corki/Ezreal/Urgot should be far less mana constrained if they do go down this route, however - which will let them lean on their spells a bit more in late game siege/harass type situations. Miss Fortune / Sivir / Ashe sit at this weird middle ground between 'I would love to cast my spells more' versus 'I should really focus on making my autoattacks hurt you.' Whereas Corki/Ezreal/Urgot are all about 'Well, my autoattack is never really going to hurt *all that much* comparatively - but I have all these spells that add DPS.'
I really should have read your second post more carefully- my first thought was 'Urgot wont make much use of this, he barely autoattacks' my tired brain completely blanking the single target spell part.



Xypherous, by designing Renekton you have given me many hours of joy and this will make me think even more highly of you.

Too much teasing though.

 
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mikelovskij ?? Member
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Originally Posted by Xypherous View Post
Just going to leave this here... and let you wonder where it might go...

Unique Toggle: Your basic attacks and single target spells drain an additional X% of your current mana and deal twice that amount in bonus magic damage over 2 seconds.

Edit: Also, don't worry about Nidalee. Just an oversight on the preview. Tears will still proc off everything it has ever proc'ed before (including Pounce) but in addition, it will now proc off things channeled/toggled effects that drain Mana.
What about a Ryze? He can go back building almost only mana? Arch/tear + manamune+FH+BV+ROA?

 
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KT Knuckels ?? Junior Member
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09-11-2012

I actually like the idea of upgrading items not only by gold but with other options, it's cool - keep on the good work

 
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09-11-2012

Ap kog maw will like this.